Dating Tips

Posted: September 3, 2009 in Uncategorized
This could be me later

This could be me later

Hello all,

Those of you following me on Twitter may be aware that I am going on a date tonight. He seems like a nice enough chap, but obviously this is something he will have the opportunity to elaborate on later. Sadly, there is a chance I will not be able to go as I woke up this morning with a stonking cold and I just want to lie in a darkened room listening to Interpol.

[EDIT: I've had to cancel my date for this evening and re-arrange it for the weekend, as I am really quite ill and wouldn't want to pass any of my germs onto anyone. You will get all the gossip later :-) ]

Surprisingly, you may think, I don’t like the concept of “dates”. It’s nice meeting new people in a relatively stress free environment (like Skeptics in the Pub or at a festival) but there is a certain amount of pressure on a date to show yourself in the best light possible, which I’m not particularly apt at.

Luckily for me, I utilised the vast wisdom of my peers, who have come up with the following golden nuggets:

alexandervelky alt. #datingtips = Carbon has two stable, nonradioactive isotopes: carbon-12 (12C), and carbon-13 (13C).

zeno001  Just be yourself! …and don’t look toooo keen!

eddedmondson  don’t eat spinach

zeno001  …or garlic.

PaoloViscardi  don’t wear wet-look leggings.

JemRoberts  Advice for ‘dates’ would only be any use if all men were exactly the same, and all women too.

andyvglnt  Avoid caffeine, especially if you’re nervous.

andyvglnt  Don’t twitpic key moments. Some people think it’s weird. (Internet irony disclaimer)

facesake Don’t stress too much, there are plenty more fish in the barrel. #datingtips

mjrobbins  “This is 2009 dammit.” – Okay then, Google him and memorize the list of “likes” on his MyFace profile.

imrankhan85 to be fair, asking for date tips on twitter is a bit like asking for health advice at the undertakers

naomimc Don’t on any account be yrself, drink alcohol, tell smutty stories, rant about things u hate.

uksceptic  mimic him (slightly not so it’s creepy) and touch him on the upper arm. Get him to do you a favour and ask something personal.

Those are all marvellous. Especially that last one (very thorough). My three step plan based on ‘uksceptic’s’ recommendation:

  1. “Ooh, that’s a nice tattoo”
  2. “Could you pass me a straw?”
  3. “How many times a week do you masturbate?” – [is that too personal?]

Perhaps not.

Next I decided to look at a couple of websites. Below is a selection of tips that I didn’t even realise I should be aware of from Top Dating Tips:

Never reveal information you don’t have to. An enigmatic woman drives men wild.

I honestly cannot think of any information that he absolutely needs to know on a first date. If I was diabetic, maybe it’d be useful. I went on a date with a diabetic once who made me stab him and test his blood just in case he passed out over dinner. That’s important and necessary information, where ignorance could ruin a date. I’m not diabetic. I am slightly asthmatic, but it’s hardly life-threatening. Maybe we’ll just talk about music.*

Never be available when he wants you to be. Never be at the end of a phone when he calls and always let him leave a message or two first before replying.

Oooh oooh – I did this already. I was at work when he sent me a text, and didn’t see it until I went on lunch. Does that count? Does anyone deliberately wait for a prolonged period of time before replying to a text?

If he is available Tuesday, you are available Thursday.

What if I’m only available on the day he suggests? (which is what happened this week – woohoo District 9 tomorrow!) I’d have to rearrange all my other social engagements just so that he’d have to rearrange all his social engagements without realising that I was just being obstructive. If all that happens, and then the date goes badly, was it really worth all that effort? I mean, with the onset of climate change, is it ethical to add to the problem by wasting a load of time and energy when I was free in the first instance? And is it wise to begin a relationship with obstructive behaviour (if it gets that far)?

Keep your man standing on quicksand by shifting landmarks and goalposts constantly.

Who wrote this list? “Shifting landmarks”?! I do hope that’s not literal. And even if it’s figuratively, I’m not particularly keen on having to lie to someone about stuff. If he happens to ask me about my masturbating habits, I might say something coy like “Is that some kind of bird?” or “Is that that new shop on Oxford Street?” but I don’t think it’s necessary to keep him on his toes the entire time.

Ensure you are a good kisser. Men will walk away if you cannot kiss. Practice on a mirror if you have to.

Erm… I haven’t kissed that many people, but I seem to remember the experience was slightly different to kissing an inanimate object. I don’t think I’ve kissed a mirror before. Hold on…

No. That was nothing like the last time I kissed someone. It was quite cold actually. And not responsive at all. But it did fit in my handbag afterwards.

I’ll be honest, I’d be very disappointed if the date goes well, we have a good laugh, he walks me to the station, we lean in for a kiss… and then he goes “Nope. Rubbish. Can’t do this” and then walks off. It’d make a great anecdote though.

Never talk too much about your father and how your date measures up in comparison.

That’s just as well. I’ve never been on a date with my father.

So far this is crap. I wasn’t planning on doing any of that, maybe I should though? *I went on a date when I was a bit younger with someone who worked in my local record store. He’d asked me out after I’d had an argument with a customer about Opeth vs Dream Theater. He was so impressed, we went out for a meal a couple of days later but it was horrible. He asked me what music I was into, thinking I’d say “Oh you know, good music, like Opeth, Rage Aganst The Machine, System of a Down” (which I do, incidentally) but instead, the first band I mentioned was Muse. It was like that time I told Sunny Hundal I’d consider running for the BNP. Now my generic response is: ”All sorts of music – not really into hardcore slash metal though, but I can see it’s appeal”.

The Relationship Gym has this list of conversation tips. These do seem a lot more straightforward to be honest:

Keep the conversation light enough to allow them to open up rather than feel interrogated.

That looks pretty sensible to me :-)

To sum up: I think ‘zeno001′ might have been right all along – just be yourself. It’s quite boring advice though. If the date gets a bit boring, I might pretend to channel the spirit of Beyonce Knowles and exclaim in no uncertain terms that he may not be ready fo’ dis jelly.

Comments
  1. DBH says:

    Just dole out the crazy in bite sized chunks. Don’t hide the crazy!

  2. PaoloV says:

    That “top dating tips” website was talking bullshit. I’ve had women who have done that to me in the past, so I just went and found someone who wasn’t a twat.

    I’d say that zeno provided the best advice (apart from the wet-look leggings), but you need to keep in mind that not only do you need to be yourself, you also need to be prepared to do the rejecting. There’s nothing worthwhile in starting a relationship that’s just going to be miserable for everyone involved – that’s what dates should be about: weeding out the unsuitable people before you invest time and emotional energy on them.

    • carmenego says:

      Of all the nice things you’re said about Mrs V “someone who wasn’t a twat” is probably the most poetic :-P
      Otherwise, I’ll bear that in mind. Am dressed fairly innocuously today in a black trouser suit (unusually smart for my office).
      My only concern is that he’s asked me out solely on the basis that he thinks I’m “cute” when I’m actually a bit more complicated than that! It’s unlikely I’ll be tweeting this evening, so I will probably see you at the next SITP for gossip and chit chat?

      • PaoloV says:

        I don’t know about the poetry of that statement, it’s got nothing on one of my old Ask a Biologist comments:
        I won’t argue that love isn’t great – I’m wildly in love with my fiance and it’s fantastic – but I also know that it’s a physiological response to an currently undefined set of stimuli that are a result of something to do with her and something to do with me.

    • carmenego says:

      And I don’t own a pair of wet look leggings :-) Was going to buy some “jeggings” but my mum laughed at me. They were also very unflattering against my awesome pot belly.

  3. Jamie S says:

    to be fair, asking for date tips on twitter is a bit like asking for health advice at the undertakers

    I think that’s the best thing I’ve read all week.

    By the way, did you manage to slip a mention of the various types of nonradioactive Carbon into the conversation?

    • carmenego says:

      Haven’t been on the date yet, but I might. He didn’t come across as the sort of person who’d have an interest in nonradioactive carbon so I might try and stealthily sneak it in, like a curious finger to a pie.

  4. Naomi Mc says:

    I actually find this New Scientist article quite romantic (sorry, subscription needed for full article). It describes the bacteria transfer involved in kissing.

    <—This is another reason why not to take any 'dating' advice from me.

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